Catholics ARE Christians… nuff said

Posted this in a forum, just wanted to post it here:
Let me start by saying that this will be my only post in this thread as I will say all that I feel that I need to say here, very shortly.

1: Catholics ARE Christians….regardless of what anyone may tell you, if someone says otherwise, then they clearly do not know anything about the Catholic Church and need to be re-educated. This isn’t slander, it is the truth.

2: Catholics put the Bible together, yes, the very book that you’re all quoting to say that Catholics are wrong, well, we put it together.. even Martin Luther attested to that

3: History reveals early Christians doing an early version of the Mass: Letters from around 100 AD that clearly describe what can only be compared to the Catholic Mass have been found. Don’t ask for them, I don’t know where they are, just that they exist. You might be able to find out about them at PhatMass.com

4: Christ wants UNITY and to continue this argument without honestly looking at things from both sides and remaining ignorant and continue to argue based on rumors, hearsay and misconstrued slander against the Catholic Church would just be ridiculous. So please, get yourselves educated on Why Catholics Do That

5. Read anything by Scott Hahn, G.K. Chesterton, Peter Kreeft or even, yes, J.R.R. Tolkien. All of them are smarter than I am, Chesterton and Tolkien are probably smarter than most of us combined. Chesterton and Tolkien were GREAT influences on C.S. Lewis. Yes, he read them, and was great friends with Tolkien. Perhaps we can all take something from their examples.

6. Arguing in a Forum goes Nowhere: because there is enough stuff already out there on both sides. If you truly wish to argue against something like Protestantism, or Catholicism, or Mormonism… go to the source and learn about them first. Do not make assumptions and accusations about things that you know little to nothing about. No matter how much you think you know, I guarentee you it is not enough.

Thank you

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Song: Things I Prayed For

Artist: Eli

Things I prayed for when I was young
That my father would love me like his only son
That my mother would be patient with me
And my sister would not leave
And if my grandpa could see me beyond his grave
That he’d think his little man was so great
That my hair would not stick up in weird places
And I’d be someone someday

Years go by so easily that sometimes I forget
Years go by and make me see that there’s no time for my regret
No time for my regret

Things I prayed for in my teens
That God would forgive all my evil deeds
That my father and my sister would come home
And mom could meet our needs
And if my grandpa could see me beyond his grave
That he’d say a prayer for his family’s sake
That my hair would stick up in weird places
And I’d be someone someday

Years go by so easily that sometimes I forget
Years go by and make me see that there’s no time for my regret
No time for my regret

Things I pray for now in my twenties
That God would still love me
That my dad would like his new family
That I could hug my sister, that my mom could rest
That my wife would still melt every time we kissed
And if my grandpa has seen me beyond his grave
How cold and silent he has remained
That my hair would not fall out in weird places
And I’d be someone someday

Years go by so easily that sometimes I forget
Years go by and make me see that there’s no time for my regret
No time for my regret

These are the things I prayed for
That I’d be someone someday

Song: I Know

Artist: Seventh Day Slumber
Album: Picking Up The Pieces

Wonder what can be so bad
That it makes you want to die
I wonder what could be so tragic
Makes you want to take your life
You have your Savior on the cross
While you sit on the throne
Put yourself up on that cross
Put your Savior on the throne

And I know it’s hard to take what’s happening
And I know life is tough sometimes
And I know it seems like there’s no hope for you
And I know your life is worth more than you can see

It’s hard to see beyond your pain
When you feel so dead inside
It’s hard to see what you’ve been given
It’s hard to find the hope in life

And I know it’s hard to take what’s happening
And I know life is tough sometimes
And I know it seems like there’s no hope for you
And I know your life is worth more than you can see

And I say look at Jesus’ hands
Those scars are there for you
You know He understands
What you’re going through

Song: When God Ran

Artist: Shaded Red

Almighty God,
The Great I Am
Immoveable Rock,
Omnipotent powerful

Awesome Lord,
Victorious Warrior
Mighty Conquerer,
Commanding King of Kings
And the only time,
the only time I ever saw Him run
Was when

He ran to me,
Took me in His arms, held my head to His chest
And said “My son’s come home again”.
Looked in my face, wiped the tears from my eyes
With forgiveness in His voice
He said “Son, do you know I still love you?”

It caught me by surprise
when God ran

The day I left Home,
I knew I’d broken His heart
I wondered if
Things would ever be the same,

Then one night,
I remembered His love for me
And down that dusty road, ahead I could see
It was the only time,
the only time I ever saw Him run

Was when He ran to me,
Took me in His arms, held my head to His chest
And said “My son’s come home again”.
Looked in my face, wiped the tears from my eyes
With forgiveness in His voice
He said “Son, do you know I still love you?”

It caught me by surprise, It dropped me to my knees

When God ran

Fallen Away

“Take care, my brothers, lest any of you have an evil and unfaithful spirit and fall away from the living God.” Hebrews 3:12

It’s possible to know the Lord and then fall away from that relationship. It’s possible to be delivered from the evil one and be re-inhabited by seven other devils far worse than the first (Lk 11:26). It’s possible for a Christian to fall into a condition worse than unbelief (2 Pt 2:20).

The Bible warns us to take care. “My fear is that, just as the serpent seduced Eve by his cunning, your thoughts may be corrupted and you may fall away from your sincere and complete devotion to Christ” (2 Cor 11:3).

We must “encourage one another daily while it is still “today,” so that no one grows hardened by the deceit of sin” (Heb 3:13). We don’t have it made, but “He Who calls us is trustworthy, therefore He will do it” (1 Thes 5:24). Let’s encourage one another, not because we are ignorant about our weakness but because we are sure of His promises.

In our weakness His power reaches perfection (2 Cor 12:9). We were saved not by our power, but by His. Likewise, we persevere in life with Jesus by His power. “In Him everything continues in being” (Col 1:17). “We have become partners of Christ only if we maintain to the end that confidence with which we began” (Heb 3:14).
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