Posted this in a forum, just wanted to post it here:
Let me start by saying that this will be my only post in this thread as I will say all that I feel that I need to say here, very shortly.
1: Catholics ARE Christians….regardless of what anyone may tell you, if someone says otherwise, then they clearly do not know anything about the Catholic Church and need to be re-educated. This isn’t slander, it is the truth.
2: Catholics put the Bible together, yes, the very book that you’re all quoting to say that Catholics are wrong, well, we put it together.. even Martin Luther attested to that
3: History reveals early Christians doing an early version of the Mass: Letters from around 100 AD that clearly describe what can only be compared to the Catholic Mass have been found. Don’t ask for them, I don’t know where they are, just that they exist. You might be able to find out about them at PhatMass.com
4: Christ wants UNITY and to continue this argument without honestly looking at things from both sides and remaining ignorant and continue to argue based on rumors, hearsay and misconstrued slander against the Catholic Church would just be ridiculous. So please, get yourselves educated on Why Catholics Do That
5. Read anything by Scott Hahn, G.K. Chesterton, Peter Kreeft or even, yes, J.R.R. Tolkien. All of them are smarter than I am, Chesterton and Tolkien are probably smarter than most of us combined. Chesterton and Tolkien were GREAT influences on C.S. Lewis. Yes, he read them, and was great friends with Tolkien. Perhaps we can all take something from their examples.
6. Arguing in a Forum goes Nowhere: because there is enough stuff already out there on both sides. If you truly wish to argue against something like Protestantism, or Catholicism, or Mormonism… go to the source and learn about them first. Do not make assumptions and accusations about things that you know little to nothing about. No matter how much you think you know, I guarentee you it is not enough.
SCULLY: Bless me, Father, for I have sinned. It has been six years
since my last confession, and since then I’ve drifted away from the
church. I’m not sure why exactly.
PRIEST: Have you come to confess?
SCULLY: No, um, there’s a man that I work with – a friend – and
usually I’m able to discuss these things with him … but not this.
Father, do you believe in miracles?
PRIEST: Of course, I see them every day … the rising sun,
the birth of a child …
SCULLY: No, I’m talking about events that defy explanation. Things
that … I believe helped me to save a young boy’s life. But now I
wonder if I saw them at all. If I didn’t just imagine them.
PRIEST: Why do you doubt yourself?
SCULLY: Because my partner didn’t see them. He didn’t … he didn’t
believe them. And usually he … he believes without question.
PRIEST: Maybe they weren’t meant for him to see.
Maybe they were only meant for you.
SCULLY: Is that possible?
PRIEST: With the Lord, anything is possible. Perhaps you saw
these things because you needed to.
SCULLY: To find my way back?
PRIEST: Sometimes we must come full circle to find the truth.
(Scully looks up at the priest) Why does that surprise you?
SCULLY: Mostly, it just makes me afraid.
SCULLY: Afraid that God is speaking … but that no one’s listening.
My friend Pat sent me a link to this story. Granted, it’s Fox News and not a lot of people trust Fox News, but this article takes the taco:
Like a Rock
Thursday, April 21, 2005
By Neil Cavuto
Here’s a newsflash: The pope is Catholic.
I say that because so many seem to forget that – seemingly demanding Pope Benedict XVI be something he is not.
Well, here’s another news update: He will never be for abortion. He will never be for euthanasia. And if you ever say the Catholic Church should be a democracy, he will never say it is. Because it isn’t.
Most Catholics know that. A lot of Catholics hate that. But I think we’d all be wise to get over that. Because of this: The pope is here to espouse not the whims of our times, but the values that stand the test of time.
Some can quibble over whether priests should marry or laypeople should be more involved. The church evolves on such matters.
But on basic matters – matters of life and death, right and wrong -there are no ifs, ands or buts.
On these matters, any pope – including this pope – stands firm. As so he should.
Some Catholics hate it. They say they don’t like this club and don’t want to be part of this club.
Well, there’s another cardinal rule here: No one says they have to be.
Text of Speech Delivered by New Pope
“Dear brothers and sisters, after the great Pope John Paul II, the cardinals have elected me – a simple, humble worker in the vineyard of the Lord.
“The fact that the Lord can work and act even with insufficient means consoles me, and above all I entrust myself to your prayers.
“In the joy of the risen Lord, trusting in his permanent help, we go forward. The Lord will help us and Mary his very holy mother stands by us.”
Pope Benedict XVI
German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the strict defender of Catholic orthodoxy for the past 23 years, was elected Pope on Tuesday despite a widespread assumption he was too old and divisive to win election.
He took the name Benedict XVI, a cardinal announced to crowds in St. Peter’s Square after white smoke from the Vatican’s Sistine Chapel chimney and the pealing of bells from St. Peter’s Basilica announced that a new pope had been chosen.
Roman Catholic cardinals elected Ratzinger on just the second day of secret conclave to find a successor to Pope John Paul II.
Billed as the front-runner going into the conclave, Ratzinger, 78, was widely seen as a standard-bearer who would fall short of the required two-thirds majority and have to cede to a more conciliatory compromise figure.
But he sounded very much the candidate before going into the conclave on Monday, defending orthodox Catholicism and warning the other 114 cardinal electors against following godless modern trends.
“We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as definitive and has as its highest value one’s own ego and one’s own desires,” he declared at a pre-conclave Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica.
Ratzinger’s stern leadership of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, the modern successor to the Inquisition, delighted conservative Catholics but upset moderates and other Christians whose churches he described as deficient.
Born in Bavaria on April 16, 1927, Ratzinger was a leading theology professor and then archbishop of Munich before taking over the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1981.
In that office, Ratzinger disciplined Latin American “liberation theology” theologians, denounced homosexuality and gay marriage and pressured Asian priests who saw non-Christian religions as part of God’s plan for humanity.
In a document in 2000, he branded other Christian churches as deficient — shocking Anglicans, Lutherans and other Protestants in ecumenical dialogue with Rome for years.
As dean of the College of Cardinals, he presided over John Paul’s funeral Mass and the daily meetings of cardinals to discuss the next papacy.
Ratzinger was the oldest cardinal to be named pope since Clement XII, who was also 78 when he became pope in 1730. He is the first German pope since Victor II (1055-1057).