More exciting news on the Ghostbusters 3 development. Ivan Reitman has confirmed that the screenplay is complete for the third Ghostbusters film, which he believes could be the best of the three. While I don’t doubt that it could be, I think it’s going to be a very tough mark to reach. Depending on what point of view you take, it could be the best in terms of effects, story, cinematography or laughs. There are any number of variables that it could be the best at.
However, I’ve written in the past about Ghostbusters 3: Thoughts and Feelings on Continuing the Series, and I highly recommend you read it as it has garnered a lot of positive response from fans in some Ghostbusters fan forums. It’s going to be tough to even live up to our expectations, let alone top all of them. There will be those of us that find the new film can only sit in the shadow of the original. There will also be many that feel the new one far overshadows the old (and most of those sentiments will come from younger fans that didn’t grow up with the original).
I admire the confidence, though, and can’t wait to see if it does hold up to things that I have heard about it.
CS: The whole Sigourney Weaver thing about her son taking over and Bill Murray coming back as a ghost…
Reitman: Oh, no, yeah… I mean, Sigourney Weaver has a role in this movie. All the original characters have parts. As well as a whole bunch of new characters… it’s got a really good story, this one. Maybe the best of the whole series. I hope we get to do it.
I’ve read some really interesting things just now about both Ghostbusters 3 and Ghostbusters: The Video Game. I wanted to bring some things to light that might have been missed, which I feel are worth repeating, as well as highlighting:
Even [Bill] Murray returned – not with a hatful of diva demands, but wanting an assurance that Winston Zeddemore, the underwritten black character from the movies, would be elevated to full status.
I originally posted this on the Ghostbusters.net Discussion Forum. I am reposting it here, in a slightly edited form, along with my follow up, and some extra thoughts. It is edited only for punctuation purposes only.
On the New Potential Production of Ghostbusters 3
A film where the original team is replaced with new Ghostbusters will bring in a group of guys that none of us has known for the past 25 years, and thus not really care that much about.
It’s something that we’ll all have to take into consideration, should this film get made. We’ve known the original team for 25+ years, and if a new team is assembled, then we’ll have to get to know them. But it’ll never really be the same, or really fit right, unless they can capture the feel of the original films well. We’ve got this feeling like they’re part of our family, and it’s like part of that family is moving out and we won’t be seeing them again. We’re probably going to get a new group of guys that look like some of our friends, because face it, they’re probably going to be about our age, by now. The original Ghostbusters were always older, and something we could grow up to become.
The new team would make it impossible to aspire to become that, in our own minds, and may even be younger than many of us.
It’s probably going to be a natural reaction that effects whether or not each of us enjoys the new film.
I think that was part of the problem with the new Indy. It had been about 19 years between films, and had it come out in like 1992 or 1993, I think we’d probably have just seen Indy 5, and thought that nothing was really too out-there in Indy 4 (it would have been different without Shia, though, and Indy’s age would have put him into slightly different situations). People would have compared it more to Temple of Doom’s supernatural feel than wondering if Indy still had it.
I’d wager that we’re all going to be very split on our own reaction to the film. For some of us, it’s going to be like an old pair of pants. They may not fit as well, but they are broken in some. They may fit just as well, and we love wearing them. For others, it’ll be like a new pair of pants, however. You know how to wear the pants, but it takes a while to get used to them.
And that’s only half of it. The other half is that a new film means new ownership by a younger generation. The new generation will claim ownership of the franchise in their world, and start treading on well established territory. There will be some that claim the new team is better, and probably younger and if they go there, “hotter” than the original team. It’s going to frustrate a lot of us fans of the original.
I just say, we have to be prepared for anything.
Ghostbusters.net’s Doctor Venkman replied to this, saying:
You make a lot of very valid, very well-though-out points. You verbalized a lot of what a lot of the community is feeling…. very torn between whether or not they want a new film and the reasons behind it.
You… you’ve earned it:
And then I followed up with this:
Thanks! Granted, in looking over my original post, I would like to add more punctuation to it, and split up some of the run-ons. But it was a stream of consciousness of what I feel about the film and how I feel reaction will be. It’s kind of well-informed as well. Analyzing fan reaction from Indiana Jones, Star Wars and even Prince Caspian and Terminator and the casting of Avatar: The Last Airbender; you get a lot of various feedback and it all plays a role. Being a fan of all of those series of films, books or tv shows, but not a super-fan to the point of rabid, has afforded me the chance to take a step back and ask why fans might feel the way that they do about certain properties.
I’m a big fan of Ghostbusters and The Karate Kid for very different reasons. I grew up watching both films hundreds of times. I know how the fans of each of the previously mentioned series feel, and claim the same type of ownership of GB and Karate Kid. Case in point, I created a mock DVD cover of what they’re doing with The Karate Kid franchise: http://www.sweetpaul.com/more-karate…ain-no-thanks/
I am very thankful that Ghostbusters isn’t just heading the route of re-make, because we’ll never know what might’ve been. I wish that Karate Kid went the same route, with Larusso teaching the kid.
After posting that, I found an article regarding Karate Kid in which original star Ralph Macchio is quoted:
Macchio, now 47, said he expected the new version to flop. “It feels pretty good that some people are pretty angry that they’re trying to remake The Karate Kid,” he said. “It feels good that the public feels you don’t touch certain things. Some times you go back to that, and probably shouldn’t.”
He added: “From my personal view, the filling the void of what Mr Miyagi was – and the magic of that character – is going to be the toughest task.”
It’s a different set of circumstances, and I am very thankful that Dan Aykroyd is looking after the Ghostbusters series while he still can. I think we just have to wait and see how it all turns out.
Personally, I am happy that they’re going to do a new Ghostbusters film, and excited at the potential of Dr. Venkman’s idea for Ghostbusters franchises come to fruition. Having new recruits to take the series on can help give Ghostbusters the legs to last for generations to come.
Wow! I just decided to check out some movie news, and found something that got me very cautiously excited. When I read it, I didn’t believe it. I still sort of think that I’m only dreaming. I also had a weird feeling that if they did indeed shoot this fall, it would be far too soon. I would have thought that 2010 would be the earliest that they could start shooting to make a great GB3. I don’t know why I felt that way. I suppose that it’s just caution, but who knows.
As for the announcement, if we get the announcement in June, perhaps it’ll be announced on June 8th, which is the 25th Anniversary of the original film’s theatrical release.
It’s about time that Bill Murray said more than, well nothing, about Ghostbusters. Up until the last month or so, Murray hasn’t really said anything with regard to Ghostbusters, at all. But since recording dialog for the video game, and the writers being hired, Murray seems to have a lot to say.
“I think it’d be funny to have a girl Ghostbuster. We don’t have a girl Ghostbuster. I mean, they say like, ‘What if you passed it to Chris Rock?’ And I go, ‘Well, I dunno. Is Chris Rock gonna save us?’ You know, I guess. He’s funny.”
He adds, “I just think there’s some funny girls I’d love to see be Ghostbusters.”
Just to be clear, one site I read went well beyond what I thought of, when reading this. The route that I went was more along the lines of Tina Fey. The only real problem is that there isn’t a girl that I can think of, at the moment, that would realistically play a Ghostbuster. One person that came to mind, however, is Janeane Garofalo. She tends to be negatively sarcastic though, and no Ghostbuster was mean-spirited in the films, which I think is what helps make it work.
“We didn’t have a lot of special effects in it. There were just a couple. It was just the funny characters in that world, and I like that movie because of it. The first movie had like 60 plate shots. The second movie had like hundreds. Those guys got their hands on the script early, and it was GONE. It went away. It was hard to wrangle because it was tied all around the effects without the story or the characters coming first. So, they are hard movies to write, and Dan really caught it with that first one.”
That’s absolutely correct. Dan Aykroyd seemed to catch lightning in a bottle. Having a third Ghostbusters film in this day will mean that it’ll have some pretty great special effects. But keep it to a minimum, be smart with the effects and don’t do things just to do them. Story and characters need to be taken care of before any effects shots are considered. In doing this, the effects can support the story, not the other way around.
Thank you, Bill Murray, for re-instilling hope of a great new Ghostbusters film actually seeing the light of day. I’ll leave you with this hilarious quote:
“The characters are fun to do. We did the video game this summer and it was fun to do it again. I found myself walking down fifth avenue singing the song. People were like ‘wow that actor is really full of himself.’”